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I don’t know to what degree this is a joke, and clearly I don’t share this ‘humour’, but the communist thing is played out. As a person from an ex-communist country, I view communism as a social “experiment” that left fifty million dead, and not as a meme or an ironic anything. I think it’s pathetic that people who are lucky enough (and supposedly intelligent enough) to study at a university of McGill’s caliber have nothing better to do than to create these pseudo-witty degeneracies that fall flat in every way. Get over yourself, and perhaps try to do something that brings some benefit to someone. At this point in your moral and intellectual development, you sorely need it.
there is a lot going on
tereza may be right.
I think we are witnessing the hipster equivalent of humour, which is what a normal person calls “not funny at all, and why would you even joke about that anyways, are you some kind of insensitive asshole or just plain retarded?”. To summarize, you’re pretty much bang on here and these fuckers are idiots and/or not funny.
hey Tereza,
I think I understand where you’re coming from – I’ve friends from ex-communist countries too. But I think it’s a mistake to give up on communism just because the wrongly applied “experiment” in the ex-soviet block failed. It definitely doesn’t mean the ideas were wrong (have you read Marx’s Communist Manifesto?!). Please do keep that in mind.
Secondly, judging from posts on this site (e.g., the letter from students occupying 6th floor), it’s clear that these folks ARE ACTUALLY doing something to benefit someone, in fact a lot of someones! They’re fighting for democracy, to make sure every single person’s voice matters, not only of those who’re at the top, financially or status-wise – you of all people should understand that!
All the best in your understanding of other people’s reality.
Yes, your motto suggests you’ve learned from the mistakes of the past.
“Run Red Though the Streets Like the Blood of Capitalist Dogs”
LOL
Actually, they’re fighting for a referendum that was passed illegally under SSMU bylaws. The referendum question should not have contained two different issues, just one. If the occupiers are truly concerned about the quality of McGill democracy, perhaps they should follow the rules and try the referendum again. With the amount of publicity these issues have now garnered turnout would undoubtedly be larger and thereby more representative of the student body. Now whether or not that would allow for these two groups to continue to receive funding is another question entirely….
I remember being communist too… Then I turned 14
The communist manifesto was completed in its first edition in 1848 and has hardly been touched since then. There were some great ideas to counter what was occurring in Europe at that point in history: no minimum wage, slumlords, no gov’t pension plans, no company pension plans, no employee provided healthcare, no social programs…we talk about the 1% today, the disparity was obnoxious at this point in history and Marx had some legitimate points.
I am not sure if you have realized this but communism as an economic system has been instituted in several places around the globe beginning in the early 1910′s. It was definitely worth trying, but its faults have become inherently obvious to anyone that has a sense of history or a global vision and doesn’t rely on a relic of a pamphlet that was published in an entirely different era. I’m not even sure that Marx would be a communist if we were to have lived long enough to see his system instituted. The major problems with communism:
1) Employee incentives disappear, production drops
2) Food shortages, supply chain misfunctions, mass starvation
3) The need to control the economy lends itself to a government that must control all aspects of behaviour, this aspect grows and grows until you find yourself erecting walls (Berlin) and killing any able bodied employee from leaving, or anyone that wants to protest. A sit in like you are performing would have landed you in a Gulag, or been more likely, you would all be killed.
4) As governments desperately cling to state revenue sources like oil, mining…they pilfer their supplies until there is nothing left (the Soviet’s entire state revenue relied on oil and mining, they are the worlds #1 producer of oil but they are virtually dry…Venezuela’s state revenue relies entirely on oil. Try convincing them not to develop their Tar Sands…go sit on Chavez’s front lawn and see what happens to you). Try visiting Cuba, speak to the locals, see if they enjoy communism, they are in the process of privatizing their workforce and it is clear their communist state will likely collapse to a social capitalist system soon after the Castro’s are finished.
In the meantime, the “Bourgeois” system evolved to create gov’t sponsored pension plans, gov’t sponsored health care, minimum wage, rent controls, massive tuition subsidies to make education accessible. The United States is perhaps further right than Canada, but you are all living in a day and age and country where opportunities are abound and endless, social injustice still exists, but not on the scale that would be observed in a communist system. Move to Denmark, Norway, Sweden or Finland and you will see the benefits of a social capitalist system.
Interestingly enough, communism as a system could work, just not in our species given our sense of property rights, reciprocal trade nature, need for personal work incentives and the dominance hierarchy that leads to depression when placed in a system where our movements are limited, ideas are repressed and complete control over our behaviour occurs in a totalitarian state run system.
The reality though is that you are all in fear of not being able to thrive in the current system given the low prospects provided with an arts degree. It is natural for people in your situation to attempt to overthrow the system, create a state of anarchy, and want to overthrow property rights in order to level the playing field so you can get a leg up. Trust me, you will have far more success and happiness by just going to a community college, getting a useful skillset, becoming employed, and enjoying your property rights.
If you aren’t a communist by 20 you’ve got no heart, but if you aren’t a capitalist by 30, you’ve got no brains. Unfortunately, most of you are over 20…time to start growing up.
ha ha ha you must be an expert troll.
This was an unbelievably arrogant and callous post, Mike. You should be ashamed of yourself. I would’ve expected MUCH more from a McGill student.
Hi Mika,
Unfortunately, I came across your reply far too late for you to likely see it again. However it is still worth typing. The way I see it, reality is the only thing that is callous, I was just writing on its behalf. The sooner everyone realizes this and tries to adapt accordingly rather than uphend the system to something that will never happen in Western society, the better off they will be. If you disagree with anything I wrote, I am open to dialogue and a change of opinion, however just calling me arrogant will not be worthy of a response.
Troll? I was at least hoping that a McGill University student would be capable of countering my points with something that at least seems plausable on the surface and this is the most intelligible thing you can write. You do not make your movement seem very organized. I would have hoped for more from a McGill University student.
psst…I think it’s a joke, not a movement. i hope that wasn’t supposed to be a secret.
MARP is amazingly self-centered and inconsiderate. They are even worse than the administration at McGill because they believe they have the right to impose their rather radical views on others BY FORCE. At least McGill pretends to give all students a vote! You lot know full well that if put to a student referendum you would be out on the street, if not in jail for trespassing.
Please go home and leave the rest of us to actually get something done, including studying. You complain when internet, toilet and health services are not provided to your occupation. Where do you think all those services come from?
The worst kind of bourgeoisie is the non-contributing parasite with a sense of entitlement.
Is this blog sarcastic… “Maoist hate blog”? If you knew anything about the Mao totalitarian regime, you would know that this blog, protesting and even partying would be strictly forbidden (and those involved would probably be subjected to punishment and imprisonment).
Besides from what Mike said about Communism, it really does take a dictator (/central government) and the cost is a loss of many democratic freedoms, such as that of the press.
Maoism, Stalinism, etc. aren’t Marxism. Just like this “revolution” isn’t either. People distort the message for their own goals.
Marx himself said that in reality, his theory would be realized in a VERY wealthy state where everyone’s income was relatively stable and high enough to insulate themselves.
suck my dick you silly insignificant buggers, pretty soon you will fuck off to wherever you came from, not Montreal you cry-babies, and there will not be a trace of you left behind. Naive, ignorant uneducated shits; you will probably run f0ir office ahy day now like that Quebecois opportunist shit Nadeau-Dubois asshole and you’ll end up like Harper, fucking all of of us in the ass.
Hypocrits.
Show yourselves you cowards.